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It's back on Obama's agenda, along with "all of the above"
President Obama, on election night.  (Christopher Dilts)

Life doesn’t hand you many second chances to make good on promises.

But that’s what the American public, with an assist from superstorm Sandy, has given President Obama: another 4-year opportunity to tackle climate change—the critical environmental issue of our time. He’s now talking about the issue again, after two years of near-silence, and just a few days ago spoke of “an agenda that says we can create jobs, advance growth and make a serious dent in climate change.”

President Obama's words aren't quite as bold as those he made four years ago about attacking climate change, but they give us hope that climate change has become a politically viable issue—especially when seen in the context of the election.

One of the headlines of this election is how coal—the prime cause of man-made climate change—lost traction with voters, despite a huge influx of campaign spending by the fossil fuel industry. The industry was hoping to use coal to beat President Obama and win a Senate majority in coal states that also were swing states. In Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Montana, Democratic senators won against that onslaught of coal messaging and money. And the president won a majority in three of those states. On top of that, no senator who had voted against efforts in the Senate to strip the EPA of its ability to work on climate change ended up being punished at the polls. The coal money going into this campaign was a major effort to punish senators for voting for greenhouse gas controls and against coal and that effort failed—dramatically.

That does not mean that the prospects for major climate change legislation have changed, however. The House remains in the hands of Republicans and climate deniers.

Earthjustice will focus on defending’s what’s been done at the EPA on climate change and greenhouse gases and going to court to compel more. The unfinished business includes completing greenhouse gas pollution standards for new power plants. Getting greenhouse gas standards for existing power plants now has the prospect of getting addressed in the next couple of years. Greenhouse gas standards for oil and gas production—oil refineries, cement kilns and aviation—are in the works and we are involved in all of those issues through our legal work.

In addition, we will continue our work to retire dirty coal-fired power plants individually with dozens of those cases going on in many states.

We also are prepared to push hard for leadership from President Obama on climate change. While he has resurrected climate change as an issue, he’s also said economic growth comes first—as if we can’t have both. Moreover, we are troubled by some campaign promises he made before the votes were counted … promises to seek an “all of the above” energy policy that includes “clean” coal and oil and gas. You can’t fight climate change by investing in its causes—you must invest in its solutions.

Forceful action on climate change is a tall order, beyond what a president alone can deliver. That’s why Earthjustice will continue demanding action through the courts and advocacy on the Hill. In all ways, we will promote a clean energy future—the only solution that builds our economy while stopping the advance of climate change.

Cap and Trade may be DOA in Congress, but just got under way a few days ago, in California. I doubt that this is the answer. I think that once the tragedy that was Sandy fades, the politicians will go back to business as usual. I recently heard on Amy Goodman's 'Democracy Now' program, an Obama sound bite. He said that the economy is his prime concern, and he won't impose environmental restraints on any recovery. So this administration isn't the solution, but part of the continuing problem.
Frankly, my fellow Americans, I think that humanity won't solve the problem of climate change. This species isn't wise enough.

"Life doesn’t hand you many second chances to make good on promises," nor does Nature.

Let's cut to the chase: the only entity on this planet capable of slowing down the out of control carbon monster is the ECONOMY. In order to use it, we must PUT A PROGRESSIVELY RISING, REVENUE-NEUTRAL PRICE ON CARBON EMISSIONS, REFUND THE PROCEEDS TO CITIZENS and then the government can step out of the way. The "free" market can then correct the biggest market failure in the history of money: it's failure to account for the social costs of burning fossil fuels. Get over Cap and Trade -- it's DOA in Congress. Carbon fee and dividend has conservative supporters. See CarbonTax.org and CitizensClimateLobby.org! Let's get this done!

Here's the thing: climate change will not be stopped. It's too complicated and too late in the game. It's happening here and now. The global powers will not eliminate reliance on fossil fuel, and there are no cost-effective alternatives that can be implemented now (emphasis on now). You'll never convince the developed world to stop driving cars, using electricity, buying cell phones and ipads, or eating mass-produced food, which is what it will take to stop climate change.

So the more prudent course of action is to forecast and plan for the effects of global climate change - identify at risk populations, prepare for climate change and how it will affect crops, livestock, disease patterns, sea water levels, etc. The world will be a slightly warmer, stormier place, but still inhabitable. We are living longer than our great-grandparents and our air and water is much cleaner than it was 40 years ago.

Your are correct as far as you go; we can limit the increase by limiting the use of coal & making energy more expensive. We also mus do what your 2nd para says.

Your are correct as far as you go; we can limit the increase by limiting the use of coal & making energy more expensive. We also mus do what your 2nd para says.

Dear President Obama, you are a man I really admire you stood up for women's rights and the right of all people whether they have money or not. I admire you in many ways. You raised the question nobody else did you took the step to start in the right direction to invest in green energy. I hope you will continue with it as well .. In all your speech, you talked about you the important is that we should take care of the earth that we should let our children live on a planet that we have done everything to save. You are the first who stood up for this and I hope you will continue with this. I hope I get to see more green jobs. I believe in you and I hope you do not disappoint me-
I trust you mr president and i believe in you.. You said during the election race that you hear everyones voices and even that you had to earn every vote .. I hope you still hear my voice and i hope you will take more stepes to make the world a better place.
i but my trust in you now mr president...

Clean energy can be accomplished. Nova, the public television science program, aired a program last week about clean energy and all the many promising possibilities. I suggest you look for this program online.

There's no excuse for petroleum energy now that so many viable labs across the country are coming with ingenious ways to use clean energy.

You are wrong - there is no current "clean energy" option that can be implemented immediately and allow us to stop using fossil fuels. Just because something looks good on paper or in the lab, you still have to build it and make it work in an economically and socially viable way. You can cover every open space from here to China with wind mills and solar panels and still you would not generate enough power to replace that currently provided by fossil fuels. The so-called green energy options are a pipe dream, at least in the current form that we have now, and they are not economically viable under any free-market scenario. So what other options exist - nuclear energy? It may be a good alernative but certainly not supported by the public in the wake of the Japan tsunami disaster. And then there's all that nasty nuclear waste that we still don't have a good plan for managing.

So like it our not, fossil fuels are what will power the earth for at least the next few generations, until we can find economically viable alternatives that will allow us to wean ourselves off it.

Thomas O. Nass’ Paraphrase and Enhancement of W.C. Lowdermilk , U.S. Dept of Agriculture 1948, from "Conquest of the Land Through 7,000 Years"

This Holy Earth Thou shall inherit this Holy Earth as a Faithful Steward, respecting, protecting and conserving its Environment, its Resources and its Productivity for future generations. Thou shall safeguard its Fields from erosion; its Soils and sub-Surface from Chemical Saturation; its Ocean Waters, its Ground Waters and its Air from chemical Pollution and over-heating. Its Oceans from over fishing; its Forests from desolation; its Mineral Resources from depletion; its Hills from overgrazing by thy herds and its Creatures from extinction. ALL THIS SO THAT THY DESCENDANTS MAY ENJOY ITS ABUNDANCE AS ONCE DID THEE.
As all Nations do share in the Ownership of this Holy Earth. Ergo, if any Nation or its leaders should fail in the responsibilities of their Stewardship, then all of thy Crop land shall become sterile ground with wasting gullies; thy waters unfit to drink; thy air too thick to breath; the meat of thy herds and thy flocks, as the spawn of thy waters and thy oceans, unfit to eat; and storms shall devastate thy landscape. If any of the above should come to pass, then thy descendants shall gradually diminish in their number and eventually depart in their entirety from off the face of this Holy Earth.
Why? Because insatiable, sociopathic, corporate, GREED and ignorance of their ignorance of all things except their "Bottom Line" shall have decreed it so.
Corporate "PROFITS" and a "Clean Environment" are not, and never will be, compatible. Corporate Credo -to which their sycophants subscribe: "Rather no Planet at all than a Planet where our insatiable, sociopathic GREED cannot be satisfied. Restrictions, Safety Regulations and the Environment be Damned!"
Tom Nass
5th Marine Division - WWII

The problem with climate change has to do with the problem of fixed minds. In order to fix the problems of overpopulation, meat based diets, pollution of all sorts, working with non bio degradable materials, mining, coal production, etc. etc. we need to evolve spiritually. We need to change the way we live, even the smallest things count, like recycling, consuming less, eating more vegetables, supporting local farmers that produce organic food. We need to get involved in educating people so they do not reproduce like rabbits.
I am afraid that it is too late to put our trust in our politicians, who are bought buy corporate conglomerates that have not respect for the environment.
When we learn to live with less, when we make a commitment to help mend the planet at a global level, then we might see some change, but we must move now to leave our earth in better shape for the next generations to come.

Wasn't there a song way back that chorus lined "It's the end of the world as we know it...)

Common Sense is Dead! Something Big and Awful is coming. Buy a remote location, Construct an 8 ft, fence with razor wire on top and Solar electrify the fence. Plant fast growing hedges perferably spikey plands on fence line for privacy. Raise German Sheperd dogs and train them in protection. Minium 3 dogs per acre. Plant fruit trees, big vegie garden, raise some chickens, ducks, and let them free range. Raise rabbits.( the dogs are on raw diet) Throw some tailpia in the duck pond. Landscape in medicinal and savory herbs.
Buy guns and PLENTY of ammo before it's not allowed and the order is given to disarm americans with guns. Lay in a large supple of toilet paper.(small comforts) Have your first aid supplies and any medical training memorized. Both animal and people.
It sort of feels like we are being forced back to the land, at least for some time. For those of you who have no survival plans for what's coming...............Kiss your Okole good-bye!

Seriously? The environmental cost of all those dogs would nullify any green energy from the solar panels. Their prodigious poop would eventually poison your entire water supply, not to mention the methane created through its fermentation. The solution is obvious: ROBOTS. I for one welcome our new robot overlords.

EVERYONE needs to read Lewis' book "Inconclusive By Design" to fully understand why we perpetually argue the the same old "Yes it is, No it isn't happening BS". Global Warming is in the BEST INTEREST of the energy industry, they are poised in advance to swoop in and rape the newly exposed land under the ice caps.
EPA , DEQ their arch enemies? WRONG. When these, and ALL, regulating agencies are being funded by the very entities they are charged with regulating, they DON'T bite the hand that is feeding them. The supposed regulatory actions being force fed to the gullible public is in reality a smoke screen that facilitates the very actions they are supposed to be curtailing. WE'LL take care of it, YOU, just close your eyes, don't get involved.
In addition to the pollution argument that seems to keep everyone's attn. why is the HAARP Prgm. not being factored into the mix..... by anyone,..... including the research community. HAARP is an ionospheric heater and one of it's stated purposes back in the 90's was TO MELT THE POLAR ICE CAPS,.... DUH, Ralph, think there's a connection?
Play catch-up, read "Angel's Don't Play This HAARP" and sequels, by Dr. Nick Begich, former Senator from Alaska.
Remember the Star Wars Prgrm. that was defunded by Congress many yrs. ago, due to it's potential for abuse? It went into black op funding and is alive and well in the HAARP PRGRM, on line and fully operational as of Oct. '98' (if memory serves.)
Remember the SALT II TREATIES? The involved nations agreed not to use weather warfare against each other, no such provision for domestic use. The Tesla Scalar Unit was in play and being experimented with at that time. Several smaller countries unsuccessfully tried to sue the offending nations for stealing their weather, did you hear about it on the news? NO? ....HMMM
What of the EXPERIMENTAL CLOUD SEEDING project that was recently refunded for a second five yr. run, (cost, $8 million) by the state of Wyoming, despite 2 yrs missing from the previous run records ?
How many other states are participating and what are the links?
Puzzle pieces, Synergistic effects, when noses are pressed so hard to individual trees, they can't see the whole tree, let alone the forest. When you look at cause and effect, no one piece of the puzzle can suffice for the whole picture. With big energy funding both sides to prevent coalescence of ideas and resources from interfering with the game plan, we stagnate, arguing a single point source, while the bigger threat is sneaking under the radar, in complete anonymity.

I want my refund from the cloud seeding experiments too!

Dude your head is spinning so fast you can't keep track of which conspiracy theories are which. Calm down, actually examine what you're saying and report back.

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries, at specific geological places, "building/creating/engineering" pyramid type structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

I would aver that nothing will prove more precisely the old Maxim: "What goes around, comes around", than the fact that what, we have, allowed to be Sprayed on our Crops, Spilled onto our Land -including the Pesticide run-off from crops, Spewed into our Air, Buried in our Soil, Dumped into our Waters, Left in our sub-surface as a result of mining and drilling(FRACKING) operations, will soon be seen, smelt and tasted, in that order, as it comes back at us out of our spigots. Count on it!
The potential for the survival of our environment is related directly to the, insatiable, sociopathic GREED of the "Special Interests" and their carte blanche to continue to Pollute, Deceive the Public with specious Ads and, then, Pollute some more! As their GREED increases -and it will, our Environment will grow worse. If not brought under control, GREED will soon take this great Country Down!
We are our Environment’s Keeper!
If not us, WHO? Certainly not those who are PROFITING FROM ITS DESTRUCTION!

Man-Made Pollution: Unabated, Unrestricted, Unattended, Limitless and Unstoppable. The Coal, Chemical, Petroleum and Plastics Industries, in particular, have become our Frankensteins.
Pollutants are raining down on us from above, bubbling up under our sneakers from below and overflowing our land fills with indestructable plastics. When your Plastics salesman tells you that his Product will last you forever, he isn't lying.
Our Finite(Atmospheric)Closed System is filling up, bottom to top, inexorably faster than we can pump any of it out. We are becoming a planetary "Titanic". And that "Iceberg" is not that far ahead!
How come only the millions of "toxified" fish in our streams and oceans and the dead and dying trees of our forests know this?
Don't our Lawmakers(?) in Washington recognize this as a problem or do they recognize -as do their Corporate Proprietors -the major polluters, that obese "Bottom Lines" and a Clean Environment are not compatible?

need to get rid of the law that grants "entity" to corps. that will begin to bring the "house of cards" down. MUCH MORE URGENT is there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place (the $ already invested is unstoppable, and an "act of god" or natural disaster would effect whats already been built.) it will create a catastrophic event. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries, at specific geological places, "building/creating/engineering" pyramid type structures and attempting in many ways to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for and give my support to ALL those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (those in govts, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift,the internet as a research/debate/learning tool, "spirit/lightworkers, sacred geometry, the mayans and all civilizations for "creating/leaving" records of the knowledge they acquired,...)

It is important to emphasize alternate employment and retraining in coal producing areas.

The fastest mitigation to climate change is to severely reduce consumption of animal foods. About 1/2 of human induced warming is attributable to animal agriculture. Methane is 24 times more potent than CO2 and takes only 7 years to cycle out of the atmosphere. CO2 takes around 100 years to come out. Human pursuit of animal protein is the leading cause of methane release and a primary cause of CO2 concentrating in the atmosphere. Check the facts and act!

"As environmental science has advanced, it has become apparent that the human appetite for animal flesh is a driving force behind virtually every major category of environmental damage now threatening the human future: deforestation, erosion, fresh water scarcity, air and water pollution, climate change, biodiversity loss, social injustice, the destabilization of communities, and the spread of disease." Worldwatch Institute, "Is Meat Sustainable?"

"The livestock sector emerges as one of the top contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global. The findings of this report suggest that it should be a major policy focus when dealing with problems of land degradation, climate change and air pollution, water shortage and water pollution, and loss of biodiversity. The impact is so significant that it needs to be addressed with urgency." UN Food and Agricultural Organization's report "Livestock's Long Shadow"

“If every American skipped one meal of chicken per week and substituted vegetables and grains... the carbon dioxide savings would be the same as taking more than half a million cars off of U.S. roads.” Environmental Defense Fund

Why would someone choose to be vegan? To slow global warming for one! Here are two uplifting videos to help everyone understand why so many people are making this life affirming choice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKr4HZ7ukSE and http://www.veganvideo.org

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." ~ Albert Einstein

It's a shame that climate change and money must co-exist. However, this is a fact. While we work to retire dirty coal -fired power plants. We need to create jobs for the people who work at these plants. An extra step that will go a long why towards decreasing the oppostion to addressing climate change.

As we create pollution standards.... industry will pass the increase cost, in order to maintain their bottom line, to employees and consumers. These employess and consumers are the least able to cope with an additional financial hit......they are the last to be considered and the easiest choice of industry when looking to recover from additional overhead. We need to stay invested in the process of cleaning up our act and insure that industry takes a critical look at how to off set additional over head.....not simply pass it off.

It's difficult to maintain a balance with the trickle down effect of changing our ways.

Balance should be part of the standard thinking as we move through the process of cleaning up our act with regard to climate change.

In ancient India, I am talking about the prosperous and SUPER India where there was no poverty, no disease, no inequalities... the country where scientists/Rishis and gurus went about teaching SIMPLICITY and TRUTH to all the children and where the earth was considered our mother (still is) and the ecosystem was cared for by keeping its purity intact by keeping all forms of contaminants in check by doing YAJNAS and Poojas which purified the environment all around along with meditations .... This is what is needed now, not the materialistic and logical view of cleaning our environment but the ancient ways of these Rishis which were destroyed when the British took over with their scheming ways and destroyed these teachers and the huge libraries such as the Nalanda... where the world would come to learn about the truth and life and all about the spirituality .... We need to turn back to this Simple truth and stop littering our minds and earth with needless enterprises and falsehoods of Profits from business which benefit only 1 individual (CEO/ COO...) while the rest are considered expendable...We cannot achieve this without destruction of these few who control all resources or by these few realizing truth and letting go of control.... OM

in the us, we need to get rid of the law that grants "entity" to corps. that will begin to bring the "house of cards" down. MUCH MORE URGENT is there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place (the $ already invested is unstoppable, and an "act of god" or natural disaster would effect whats already been built.) it will create a catastrophic event. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries, at specific geological places, "building/creating/engineering" pyramid type structures and attempting in many ways to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for and give my support to ALL those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (those in govts, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift,the internet as a research/debate/learning tool, "spirit/lightworkers, sacred geometry, the mayans and all civilizations for "creating/leaving" records of the knowledge they acquired,...)

We need to march in the streets, send millions of e-mail, tweets, letters etc. and get in the face of our political leaders. Only large numbers and loud voices will turn the tide. I don't think the president will work on this if we don't push him - hard. And I know the politicians on both sides need to continuous noise.

EJ needs to keep the pressure on the Administration, no free passes.

President Obama said, in one of his post-election messages, "Make me." He was following President Franklin Roosevelt's statement in his promises following his election in 1932, in the depths of the depression.

I'm a very firm believer in all efforts to help stop the decline of our climate. I wish we were in a position to stop coal mining yesterday. Hoping that natural gas will advance the decline of coal burning. I am not in a position to help financially but until I can you have my moral support. Thank you for all you do.

Sadly, the process for extracting natural gas, popularly known as "Fracking" is potentially worse for the environment than burning coal. Fossil fuel companies pump high-pressure water deep into the ground to break apart rock deposits where the gas is "hiding". The thing is, they also use chemicals with this water, and refuse to disclose what they are. The risk of contamination to water supplies is enormous, plus they are disrupting the substructure of our Mother. Some geologists have voiced concerns over an increased risk of earthquakes. The solution is to move away completely from the use of so-called "fossil fuels" altogether, and the bulk of our investments should be in that direction.

Due process under present fiduciary duty of corporations and monetary value -not being linked to value of Earth alive is underwhelming to the point of life's total extinction certainty, definitely.
That is, due process of law under present lack of link of money to value of Earth Alive but- Writ of law exists upon which change relies that would save Earth and the life she harbors, Act of God..
What has come up was a surprise as to its suddenness and severity by all estimates and the situation Earth is in http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/ fully warrants change to system's core..
I suggest in strongest terms Earth Justice in conjunction with an array of forces afoot act now.
US is but one nation and the mighty can come tumbling down but the goal is to swing full power of industry from the hands of greed to the common purpose of saving Earth while zoom is put in economy on a scale unheard of in the Universe, at least to this point.. We could get a prize to boot for most improved or something if communications were up to it between time periods now and distances of space including what is behind the curtains of dust or residuals of past titanic events of expansion and contraction.. -well skip the prize or anything else unless earth humans get it together fast, very and unify for common goal.. We must force change to happen on the scale capable of getting ahead of advanced state accelerated global warming and that I believe entails tapping writ of Act of God applied on global level with sudden shield to keep money bag worms from exploiting purpose to fraud.

Science gave us the pesticides that made stewardship necessary in the first place! They are lab coat consultants, not Gods or saints but we all need something to believe in….
You “believers” are the ones saying it’s a crisis (because the scientists say so), even though the scientists only say it “could” happen, not WILL happen so how is it a “could be” crisis? Or is it a little tiny catastrophic crisis, like in a Harry Potter movie? The legal exaggeration is astounding and just how far will science take us to the brink of no return before they say; “It WILL happen”, with no “maybe” or “could be” etc.?

Science has had some failures, but it has also had striking successes. Climate change is more a case of "do the math", look at the historical temperature rises of the past, and what is happening now. Yes there have been periods of heating and cooling, but the difference between then and now is measurable. Look at what we know about what makes hurricane/typhoons & droughts occur...quantifiable figures are available on it...from every sector of the scientific community and from every part of the globe. It makes no sense to say that because science made a mistake in one area, that it will be a wrong in others. When the scientists from around the world are telling us Global Warming is happening and at some point will likely be irreversible for saving our world as we know it, we have to pay attention. If climate deniers are wrong, we will not soon enough be able to turn this giant ship earth around to save ourselves. I do think we need to pay more attention to unregulated population growth and what part it will play in the way this ultimately plays out. People who are starving or devastated by destruction of economy & human supporting habitat will be a threat to all the rest of the world as they fight for limited resources, particularly food. Wars over oil are bad enough; wars over food and water will be infinitely worse.

Condemning my kids and billions of others to the greenhouse gas ovens of your "Climate Change" crisis just widens the gap between remaining believers and the growing former believer majority. And further support of the climate change mistake and exaggeration isn't helping anyone or the planet.
We will no longer love the planet with false fear and it seems like you remaining doomers just wanted this misery to be real for my kids. Why? To drag us all down in your miserable lives? You doomers of climate change terror and needless panic were the real neocons.
You have to hold the threat of a death by CO2 to my kids to keep them environmentally aware?
If there were real legal consequences for issuing CO2 death threats so recklessly......

The reality is that the number of people who accept the reality of human-induced catastrophic climate change is growing - at this point, two thirds of Americans and the vast majority of the residents of other first-world countries have accepted this "inconvenient truth"

You talk about "believers", but this is physics, not religion. It doesn't matter how many people believe in facts. Even if no one but me believed in the theory of gravity, I could still understand the consequences of dropping a rock on my toe and would take precautions.

The bottom line is that your user name says it all - your only concern is yourself. I freely judge the value of your opinions with that knowledge in mind.

I recommend everyone read this pointed piece by Ted Williams, long the conservation columnist at Audubon magazine and for Fly Rod & Reel magazine.
http://conservationhawks.org/resources/FRRAu12Conservation.pdf

I read it:
“Ongoing temperature increase COULD depress remaining cod stocks…..”
“temperatures are likely to rise between….”
Not once does it say anything “WILL” happen.
The worst crisis imaginable needs a “WILL” happen, not might happen.
HELP MY HOUSE COULD BE ON FIRE MAYBE?

Climate change crisis was exaggerated so let's all be happy it wasn't real. Fair enough?

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries "building/creating/engineering" structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

Climate change; the new Reefer Madness.
*In all of the debates Obama hadn’t planned to mention climate change once.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets run by corporations.
*Julian Assange is of course a climate change denier.
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).
Meanwhile, the entire world of SCIENCE, lazy copy and paste news editors and obedient journalists, had condemned our kids to the greenhouse gas ovens of an exaggerated "crisis" and had allowed bank-funded and corporate-run “CARBON TRADING STOCK MARKETS” to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education for just over 26 years of insane attempts at climate CONTROL.

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries "building/creating/engineering" structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

People endlessly deny... deny deny deny. "This will never happen here. This is just fear mongering. Crazy radicals!" They deny right up to the point where the walls come down around and on top of them.

Since Hurricane Sandy, almost ALL commentators have stated that this is a sign of things to come. This type of storm will increase. It is a very solid scientific view, for example, that the location and flow of the Gulf Stream, which moderates the temperatures in the North East of the USA, is largely regulated by the amount of fresh water entering the North Atlantic. With the Arctic Polar Icecap melting at alarming rate, this year by an amount the size of the State of Texas over what had already been occurring, this fresh water will pour into the sea at increasing rates. It will push the Gulf Stream farther south, and the result can be super-cold hurricanes coming from the North. These processes are complicated and interconnected, and so it is difficult to explain it in a few lines. The point is, there may be a natural cycle taking place, as has happened throughout the earth's history, but it is definitely being accelerated and exacerbated by human activity. And it';s not just global warming, people! Our fresh water is being polluted. Air around coal plants becomes unbreathable and people get multiple illnesses. Species are dying off every day. You people are condemning your children to that future, not the environmentalists. You can't think of future generations, that's why you adopt your ignorant stance.

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries "building/creating/engineering" structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

IMO the problem is that both parties share the same fundamental flaw to varying degrees. That is both are beholden to the "socially enabled capitalism" paradigm that allows, even encourages, the few to profit from the exploitation and pollution of the commons. You will only be allowed to profit as well if YOU accept the paradigm via investment in the fallacy, stocks, bonds, Wall Street, etc. Obviously this paradigm leads directly to the "haves" and "have not's" that must continually fight for a piece of the action as the the resources of the planet and the life support systems that we all depend upon are rapped and pillaged, leaving only destitution in the wake. (Tar sands, acidified oceans, disrupted climate, etc.) A new paradigm is needed and it is one that has arisen from time to time in the past, usually in outlying cultures but those become quickly plundered by the more aggressive exploiters. The fallacy that those exploiters refuse to recognize to that exponential growth is not allowed in a closed system and Nature bats last. Nature is at bat and she has a strong line up. She will prevail. Respect and healing support for Earth's fragile life support systems with our tail between our legs, that is humanities only recourse. It is sink or swim Folks. The GOP do not fund abortion. Fine. A precedent. Why must I and other progressives be forced to fund the ecocide of the planet via subsidies to the fossil industry?
Survival of the species, one and all, or profits to the polluters. Your call!

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries "building/creating/engineering" structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

We can't fight climate change by investing in it's causes-we must invest in it's
solutions!!! Hannelore Asmussen

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries "building/creating/engineering" structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

I am exhausted and tired of fending (like never before) on behalf of the enviornment. I don't really understand; What seems to have become an " EXCELLERATED ASSULT " on the enviornment as a whole ...It's as though, we have "REGRESSED" as a people all over the globe and are "HELL BENT " on a path towards "SELF DESTRUCTION " !!!! I don't know if this force is attributted to just "GREED", "FRUSTRATION" and /or a culmination of masses of people, "acting - out" upon their desires, (despite social stature); without a conscious thought of <>>>> CONSEQUENCES ! That's why I speak of a regression in our judgement and morality . There is confusion guiding behavior ; Which is clearly directed towards each other, the planet and all creation.... "ALL OF WHICH, SHOULD BE HELD SACRAD TO HONORABLE STEWARDSHIP "<>>> I also see ; What I refer to as a "BROKEN HUMANITY" aspect in my own neighborhood.... There is resentment toward people breaking the rules of our society, as we once knew it and now we experiance being forced to accomodate masses of new people with totally different value-sets. This is not an affective blend. ..Our communities have suffered @ every level of civility. This has led to a serious financial/economic crisis. These "New People" BULLY their way into our society. Most choose to formulate sub-cultures/insted of intergrating. We find our enviornment burdened & we live in fear, having been threatened & told to leave <>>> our home of fourty years !!!! BECAUSE THEY SAY: "WE NO LONGER BELONG HERE" ! OUR GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS THIS ???!!!! TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, THEY WANT TO GIVE AWAY OUR INHEIRITANCE<>>>>>> OUR "ENTITTLEMENTS". I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE USA ANYMORE !!!!!!! I 'M NOT REALLY SURE WHOMmmmm IS @ THE HELM...........ARE YOU???????????????????????????????

YES, YES, YES our hopes are indeed on the rise that, just maybe and finally, the USA may lead the world in looking for and finding solutions to the most dramatic collective challenge humanity has ever faced. But we really do have to go beyond tehnocratic solutions (hybrid cars, energy eficiency...) and legal and policy-making, as important as these are, and adress the basic tenet of our consumer-driven societies, materialistic to their core.

Our common earth is sick, and it is everywhere apparent: species extinction, ocean acidification deforestation and desertification, coral reef breakdown and fish catch's precipitous decline, absolute poverty on the rise... Human-induced climate change only compounds the problem as our common earth is hit with such a dangerous change when it is at its weakest: our global life-sustaining cycles and critical ecosystems are under dire threat locally, by irresponsible natural resource exploitation (especially our avid hunger for minerals) as humans seek to continuously improve life standards. The extreme wealth disparity, in the US and around the world is also a root case of climate change and environmental breakdown. When will we as a societ say, loud and clear: ENOUGH NONSENSE!!

It is not right, by any standard that the likes of Romney can accumulate such extraordinary wealth that he can build lifts in his sixth mansion for his five cars, while other fellow human beinhgs have to eak out a living, day-by-day on starvation living standads. The guy calls himself a religious, God-fearing man, but he certainly does enjoy enormous wealth in the midst of incredible human poverty and sufferring. USA is sick, in large part, because of this overemphasis, this obsesion with ever-increasing consumerism and economic growth. It is a cancer for mother Earth. A GREEN economy MUST also adress the challenge of consumerism and extreme poverty head on, otherwise the solutions will be only partial. You should promote the ecologocal footprint as an essential tool for us to realize that these lifestyles are ESSENTIALLY UNSUSTAINABLE, irresponsible, immoral and unfair. Then, and only then. will Mother Earth and its unbelievable bounty of living species have been given breathing space

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries "building/creating/engineering" structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

In my area they are thinking of putting up wind turbines. At first, I was happy about that,but there are some real drawbacks. One, is we live in a mountainous,tourist region. We have a large beautiful lake that provides tourists and locals alike many pleasures. The views would be greatly impacted. Two, roads would have to be cut through the woods to get the equipment up to the site. Three,we have been told of the noise,shadows and danger to birds and bats all all real.
I realize all energy has its draw backs,but now that it is a possibility in my backyard,and my area does not need this energy,so it will be imported, I do not really want it.
The turbines are almost 500 feet in height. Quite a dilemma!

there is a quantum physics experiment scheduled for 12/12/12 in which they are going to accelerate particles to smash into each other for the purpose of "finding/proving anti-matter exists". this experiment is going to take place. there are those (scientist, engineers, laborers, etc) in various countries, at specific geological places, "building/creating/engineering" pyramid type structures to "protect" from the effects of this self seeking, narrow visioned, shortsighted, tunnel vision. i am extremely grateful for all those who are putting their time and effort into helping what life they can to survive in all "movements" (govt, earth justice, the arts, end hunger, world wildlife org., the milan foundation, 2012 worldshift, ...)

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